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[9fans] known working wifi cards
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Stanley Lieber
2012-03-21 03:12:02 UTC
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Reading into the record. Please update the list (or the wiki) if
you've verified any other working wifi cards. Please, firsthand
experience only.

-sl


PCI:

none known

PCI Express:

none known

MiniPCI:

Actiontec 800MIP (branded Lucent WaveLAN)

MiniPCI Express:

none known

PCMCIA:

Wavelan PC24E-H-FC
Tristan
2012-03-21 03:40:40 UTC
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Post by Stanley Lieber
Reading into the record. Please update the list (or the wiki) if
you've verified any other working wifi cards. Please, firsthand
experience only.
USB: Marvell 88W8388 aka olpc (probably not what you're looking for)

enjoy,
tristan
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Tristan
2012-03-21 05:43:47 UTC
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Post by Tristan
USB: Marvell 88W8388 aka olpc (probably not what you're looking for)
oh, and on that note:

said wireless driver is much nicer now (though far from perfect or
complete) and still in contrib/tristan/libertas.tgz.

the wavelan driver uses the ctl file in the connection (`{cat clone}/ctl)
to manage association and such (if i'm understanding correctly). i find
that fairly annoying to use and generally unintuitive.

i'm inclined to extend the ethernet interface an etherx/ctl file that
accepted commands along the lines of ssid, bssid, and channel to
configure the connection. did the wavelan driver not do this for a reason
beyond changing devether? any better ideas?

my guess is that the strongest argument against that is that wavelan does
it the other way and consistancy is important.

enjoy,
tristan
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erik quanstrom
2012-03-21 06:15:21 UTC
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Post by Tristan
i'm inclined to extend the ethernet interface an etherx/ctl file that
accepted commands along the lines of ssid, bssid, and channel to
configure the connection. did the wavelan driver not do this for a reason
beyond changing devether? any better ideas?
there's already a ctl file. it's in the connection directory. we use
this to set the hardware mtu. for example

echo mtu 9000>/net/ether0/clone

i'm sure you can do this with your wireless commands as well.
you'll need to set ether->ctl to an appropriate function.

- erik
Tristan
2012-03-21 07:01:17 UTC
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Post by erik quanstrom
echo mtu 9000>/net/ether0/clone
interesting, i didn't realise clone had been overloaded like that, i just
knew about the ctl file in the connection directory.

that's plenty convenient, if a little strange.
Post by erik quanstrom
i'm sure you can do this with your wireless commands as well.
you'll need to set ether->ctl to an appropriate function.
indeed, i had already.

thanks,
tristan
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erik quanstrom
2012-03-21 07:03:55 UTC
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Post by Tristan
Post by erik quanstrom
echo mtu 9000>/net/ether0/clone
interesting, i didn't realise clone had been overloaded like that, i just
knew about the ctl file in the connection directory.
it's not overloaded. when you open the clone file, the fid gets changed
to be that of $nextconv/ctl. since the operations tend to be one shot,
the idom is to "operate directly on the clone file".

- erik
Richard Miller
2012-03-21 15:42:23 UTC
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Post by Stanley Lieber
Wavelan PC24E-H-FC
aka Avaya World Card Silver
Stanley Lieber
2012-03-21 15:47:29 UTC
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Post by Stanley Lieber
Wavelan PC24E-H-FC
 aka Avaya World Card Silver
aka Lucent Orinoco Silver
aka IBM High Rate Wireless LAN
etc.

-sl
Richard Miller
2012-03-21 16:02:00 UTC
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Post by Stanley Lieber
aka Lucent Orinoco Silver
aka IBM High Rate Wireless LAN
etc.
"Firsthand experience only" ?
Stanley Lieber
2012-03-21 16:10:06 UTC
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Post by Richard Miller
Post by Stanley Lieber
aka Lucent Orinoco Silver
aka IBM High Rate Wireless LAN
etc.
"Firsthand experience only" ?
Perhaps it's a faulty assumption that all PC24E-H-FC cards are created
equal. I've seen them branded many different ways.

-sl
Jerome Ibanes
2012-03-21 20:08:04 UTC
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I use a "Vonets USB WiFi Bridge vap11g" I found on ebay for less than
$10, I wrote a little driver to have it set its channel and ssid.
I didn't have any documentation, so I snooped the usb traffic bridged
to a windows instance running in virtualbox.


Jerome

On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 9:10 AM, Stanley Lieber
Post by Stanley Lieber
Post by Richard Miller
Post by Stanley Lieber
aka Lucent Orinoco Silver
aka IBM High Rate Wireless LAN
etc.
"Firsthand experience only" ?
Perhaps it's a faulty assumption that all PC24E-H-FC cards are created
equal. I've seen them branded many different ways.
-sl
Ethan Grammatikidis
2012-03-22 13:59:53 UTC
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On Wed, 21 Mar 2012 13:08:04 -0700
Post by Jerome Ibanes
I use a "Vonets USB WiFi Bridge vap11g" I found on ebay for less than
$10, I wrote a little driver to have it set its channel and ssid.
I didn't have any documentation, so I snooped the usb traffic bridged
to a windows instance running in virtualbox.
Nice! I've thought snooping could help with writing drivers since I
started using Linux, but Linux had drivers for all of my hardware back
then anyway and the ISA bus was just starting to go out of style. ;)
Anyway it's funny you should post this now. Just half an hour ago I was
thinking about patching a Linux driver module to record everything it
does and every command it receives; snooping with driver help.
Gorka Guardiola
2012-03-22 15:44:07 UTC
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Post by Ethan Grammatikidis
thinking about patching a Linux driver module to record everything it
does and every command it receives; snooping with driver help.
Wireshark can snoop usb traffic. It is easy and gives you all the
information you
probably need.

There is also a similar thing for windows. Can't remember the name.

G.
Skip Tavakkolian
2012-03-22 17:51:47 UTC
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Wireshark is available for windows, osx and linux.
Post by Gorka Guardiola
Post by Ethan Grammatikidis
thinking about patching a Linux driver module to record everything it
does and every command it receives; snooping with driver help.
Wireshark can snoop usb traffic. It is easy and gives you all the
information you
probably need.
There is also a similar thing for windows. Can't remember the name.
G.
Balwinder S Dheeman
2012-03-23 09:51:21 UTC
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Post by Gorka Guardiola
Post by Ethan Grammatikidis
thinking about patching a Linux driver module to record everything it
does and every command it receives; snooping with driver help.
Wireshark can snoop usb traffic. It is easy and gives you all the
information you
probably need.
There is also a similar thing for windows. Can't remember the name.
Plz check http://sourceforge.net/projects/usbsnoop/
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Balwinder S Dheeman
2012-03-23 09:51:31 UTC
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Post by Gorka Guardiola
Post by Ethan Grammatikidis
thinking about patching a Linux driver module to record everything it
does and every command it receives; snooping with driver help.
Wireshark can snoop usb traffic. It is easy and gives you all the
information you
probably need.
There is also a similar thing for windows. Can't remember the name.
see also http://usb-robot.sourceforge.net/
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Ethan Grammatikidis
2012-03-23 21:26:10 UTC
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On Thu, 22 Mar 2012 16:44:07 +0100
Post by Gorka Guardiola
Post by Ethan Grammatikidis
thinking about patching a Linux driver module to record everything it
does and every command it receives; snooping with driver help.
Wireshark can snoop usb traffic. It is easy and gives you all the
information you
probably need.
Neat. I was thinking of the built-in wifi in laptops, myself.

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