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2013-01-28 10:13:28 UTC
My route here was: when my ISP said I'd have to buy W95, because Win3
wasn't good enough any more, I said screw-you and found linux and ETHO
[the single fd0, full OS & inet suite].
After using ETHO for some years, all other OSs felt like tying your shoe-
laces wearing boxing-gloves.
When ETHO was ported to linux, the ability to access the *nix & FAT FSs
plus the superior *nix inet facilities and *.pdf & *.doc viewers allowed
use of ETHO's superior text editing facilities, with the ability to eg.
see *.pdf on the same screen. What can you do when documents which should
be published in plain text are in *pdf & *.doc ?!
Because ETHO's VNC is too clunky and <running *nix jobs via ETHO, by
cycling through clipboard-files is tedious> I found acme->plan9->wily,
which had ETHO's superior mouse-based editor [near copy] and could run
*nix commands directly.
Since plan9 had admitted to copying ETHO, I knew it was GOOD STUFF.
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I've long realised that the naive/wrong view of computing is app-centered,
eg. the monster-browser, that does-every-thing. Whereas the correct/
extendable view is data-centered. Which implies file-directory-centered.
I used to think of *MY* file heirarchy; but plan9 is 'higher'/better in
viewing the global data-heirarchy. [OTOH relying on clouds will bring
more disaster than the recent global economic collapse, and what about
google enslaving humanity: can YOU survive without google?]
The other powerfull notion [apart from data/file centered] which allows
openess/extention is <menus>, which facilitiate the capture and access of
knowledge of what-we've-already-learned-and-paid-for, is used in ETHO.
I suspect that Wirth got all these ideas from his time at PARC?
They aren't spelled out, but with long usage, you can read-between the
lines. OTOH, I appreciate the writings of the originators of *nix, who've
apparently gone on to create plan9, who explicitly spell out the
underlying <principles of the *nix way of doing it>.
Recently I've tested the RaspberyPi hardware and was very impressed.
Is it realistic to use the Rpi as a stepping stone to plan9?
If so, how should I proceed [my main activity is collecting text from the
inet, to read and merge/manipulate and store, for later reference]?
== TIA.
wasn't good enough any more, I said screw-you and found linux and ETHO
[the single fd0, full OS & inet suite].
After using ETHO for some years, all other OSs felt like tying your shoe-
laces wearing boxing-gloves.
When ETHO was ported to linux, the ability to access the *nix & FAT FSs
plus the superior *nix inet facilities and *.pdf & *.doc viewers allowed
use of ETHO's superior text editing facilities, with the ability to eg.
see *.pdf on the same screen. What can you do when documents which should
be published in plain text are in *pdf & *.doc ?!
Because ETHO's VNC is too clunky and <running *nix jobs via ETHO, by
cycling through clipboard-files is tedious> I found acme->plan9->wily,
which had ETHO's superior mouse-based editor [near copy] and could run
*nix commands directly.
Since plan9 had admitted to copying ETHO, I knew it was GOOD STUFF.
----------------
I've long realised that the naive/wrong view of computing is app-centered,
eg. the monster-browser, that does-every-thing. Whereas the correct/
extendable view is data-centered. Which implies file-directory-centered.
I used to think of *MY* file heirarchy; but plan9 is 'higher'/better in
viewing the global data-heirarchy. [OTOH relying on clouds will bring
more disaster than the recent global economic collapse, and what about
google enslaving humanity: can YOU survive without google?]
The other powerfull notion [apart from data/file centered] which allows
openess/extention is <menus>, which facilitiate the capture and access of
knowledge of what-we've-already-learned-and-paid-for, is used in ETHO.
I suspect that Wirth got all these ideas from his time at PARC?
They aren't spelled out, but with long usage, you can read-between the
lines. OTOH, I appreciate the writings of the originators of *nix, who've
apparently gone on to create plan9, who explicitly spell out the
underlying <principles of the *nix way of doing it>.
Recently I've tested the RaspberyPi hardware and was very impressed.
Is it realistic to use the Rpi as a stepping stone to plan9?
If so, how should I proceed [my main activity is collecting text from the
inet, to read and merge/manipulate and store, for later reference]?
== TIA.